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sorts of things that could possibly be done which is by packing the corporation of london with people elected on a reform ticket a government that has the political will or that can be forced to have the political will through its manifesto for example can can make that legislation then perhaps things could change but it's a deep set problem and i think it's a bigger problem than just the corporation of london it's a problem about the role of capitalism in the world about the role of finance in particular as a force and a power but surely every industry has a lobby the manufacturing industry the tobacco industry isn't it a natural element of a capitalist society now. i mean it is in a sense in the sense that there's a lot be there ok but the problem is we have an effective governments. an effective state building built around a single interest so it's the integration of that lobbying function with the political structures with the governance of the city with its effectively a state that's the problem and that's distinct from all of the lobby groups there are there is that say that protecting
sorts of things that could possibly be done which is by packing the corporation of london with people elected on a reform ticket a government that has the political will or that can be forced to have the political will through its manifesto for example can can make that legislation then perhaps things could change but it's a deep set problem and i think it's a bigger problem than just the corporation of london it's a problem about the role of capitalism in the world about the role of finance in...
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to to drag it into the democratic system i know there are a number of people looking at running for election again to the city of london corporation and they're going to try to make some changes from the inside but it requires you know the media the press to start paying attention to this not just to have finance stories on the back page shoved the way for business people to read these things are relevant to our lives if you know the sun newspapers got a number of readers who have lost their jobs they need to start thinking about why those people have lost their jobs and how the economy is dominated by finance and tell this story to their readers because that change will benefit them. thank you very much thank you. gold fever. turnstyles it's good to see late my son but also my brother is involved in something and since i started working at the moment i stay here a little bit. more to nationals. to be milked dry and it's my think that in this country gold medal logie has an environmental cost which is an acceptable local business was labeled illegal and controlled by criminals people in orde
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eight of the republican governors elected or re-elected that night had ties to the group. >> guess what, i'm going to be governor of ohio. >> there's going to be a lot of news, and a lot of observers, that say that we made history. >> a clean sweep for republicans! >> and a star was born that election night -- wisconsin's new governor, a son of alec, named scott walker. >> wisconsin is open for business! >> i've known scott walker, the governor of wisconsin for the better part of 20 years. and scott is a classic career politician. and i don't say that in a negative way. >> journalist and wisconsinite john nichols has tracked scott walker's career since the '90s when walker was a state legislator and an alec member. >> and in 2010 he ran not presenting himself as an alec alumni or as an ally of big corporations or big business people outside the state. he ran a very down-home campaign. >> this is my lunch. i pack a brown bag each day so i can save some money to spend on the more important things in life, like sending my kids to college. >> nichols says that despite the folksy image, in t
eight of the republican governors elected or re-elected that night had ties to the group. >> guess what, i'm going to be governor of ohio. >> there's going to be a lot of news, and a lot of observers, that say that we made history. >> a clean sweep for republicans! >> and a star was born that election night -- wisconsin's new governor, a son of alec, named scott walker. >> wisconsin is open for business! >> i've known scott walker, the governor of wisconsin...
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which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs to be done. they know you have to fix entitlements, do something on the tax side, but they're trying to figure out how to get from here to there. >> and let's just stop there, because let's say the white house now presented a here. how long do we have to wait for the republicans to come forward with the there? >> well, i think what we're going to end up with probably is a smaller here that gets us to something that they're going to need to work on in the
which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step....
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has won the presidential election in slovenia he got twice as many votes as the incumbent to turn the ballot was held only two days after anti austerity protests in the capital erupted in the clashes that left fifteen people injured and it is the country's that deepening economic crisis. as that is likely to top of the new president's agenda when he takes power. america's silicon valley got where it is today through the imagination of the world's brightest brains but they didn't do it alone pioneering for an entrepreneur has helped mold its reputation but as the discovered that's in jeopardy has strict visa rules mean they're a dying breed puts the silicon valley. lots of sharing helping each other even competitors will help each other some of the biggest brands on the planet and they'll end. with america and surprisingly the majority were created by foreigners. jerry yang who was born in taipei surrogate britain whose parents came from russia when he was six or pierre omidyar an iranian born in paris silicon valley has thrived thanks largely to immigrants people who came here with th
has won the presidential election in slovenia he got twice as many votes as the incumbent to turn the ballot was held only two days after anti austerity protests in the capital erupted in the clashes that left fifteen people injured and it is the country's that deepening economic crisis. as that is likely to top of the new president's agenda when he takes power. america's silicon valley got where it is today through the imagination of the world's brightest brains but they didn't do it alone...
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one * my partner, boyfriend, arrived -- one time my partner, borden, said mickey should do a direct election. i said, why? the designer from the 1980's. he said, yes, but maybe it is could for perfume, things like that. to have an international passport. ok. but deep inside, i know that i should have loved to make one coutoure collection like that. a dream of the elegance of paris. and i remember that i propose -- it was the last new bid of coutoure that arrived. i thought to propose -- [unintelligible] why don't you take one designer like vivian westwood or others to make one season, one coutoure collection? >> you should call some up immediately and suggest the deal. >> [laughs] that is true. each one to make their own collection should not be back. a very attractive idea. >> as you do not want to talk about art, we will not say your work is art. let's be very vulgar and talk about money. [laughter] it is extraordinary what you have produced in coutoure. does that make any money? quick to be honest, what we produce in coutoure does not make money but it does include money. i must say, i am
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the presidential election. he got twice as many votes as the incumbent turk the ballot was held only two days after the protests in the capital erupted into clashes that left fifteen people injured the country's at deepening economic crisis is likely to top of the new president's agenda when he takes power. coming up r.t. takes a breathless journey through some truly deadly terrain u.s. military bombing range with a group of mad max like survivalists in a few minutes find out why they choose to call such a place home. wealthy british style. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger or a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report on our. offers an air show and an issue. doesn't matter you. the resident never profited from the film and since you'll see him coming on a signature check there you look up and there's one tap. i knew he alpha beta gamma he was always the final turn to treat his leg i went out there know what i'm going
the presidential election. he got twice as many votes as the incumbent turk the ballot was held only two days after the protests in the capital erupted into clashes that left fifteen people injured the country's at deepening economic crisis is likely to top of the new president's agenda when he takes power. coming up r.t. takes a breathless journey through some truly deadly terrain u.s. military bombing range with a group of mad max like survivalists in a few minutes find out why they choose to...
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you know, we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. right now i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they've actually asked for more revenue than they've been asking for the whole entire time. >> what are the chances we're going to go over the cliff? >> there's clearly a chance. >>> meanwhile, grover norquist making a new prediction should lawmakers fail to reach a deal. >> understand how ugly the next four years are going to get. everything in obamacare that obama didn't want you to focus on or think about, the 90% of his trillion-dollar tax increase was pushed over till after he got himself safely re-elected. all those regulations you're now hearing about, okay, those all hit after the election. we've got four years of regulation taxes. he wants to add higher taxes to that. tea party, too, is going to
you know, we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. right now i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they've actually asked for more revenue than they've been asking for the whole entire time. >> what are the chances we're going...
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a lot of people were not paying attention to it, because we were all absorbed with the election. on october 2, they purchased the facility outside of rockford, illinois. it was first touted and it appears that even though the american people resoundingly said no, and that lindsey graham did not want these crazy tweet on american soil, it looks like what they plan to do. they don't take no for answer. the devil is in the details. it advocates on behalf of the 9/11 families. it outlines the details of this acquisition. and there is language in their that specifically points to the possibility that these detainees will, in fact, be transferred to something like a civilian facility in illinois or someone else be one we did a segment on this at the time. the language certainly keep that open and it is open as an option if they can get congress to deal with this. there was bipartisan options and that is why barack obama has said that we are not going to fund it. you can say that you are going to bring these detainees and as long as you want, but we have the power and we are not giving
a lot of people were not paying attention to it, because we were all absorbed with the election. on october 2, they purchased the facility outside of rockford, illinois. it was first touted and it appears that even though the american people resoundingly said no, and that lindsey graham did not want these crazy tweet on american soil, it looks like what they plan to do. they don't take no for answer. the devil is in the details. it advocates on behalf of the 9/11 families. it outlines the...
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well to remember that he also very much involved himself in the internal politics the usa during the election campaign that can't even do it himself very much the administration the movement around the world for palestine for palestinian people is unprecedented netanyahu should wake up and recognize that jeremy corbin. turkey ready to push the trade turnover through over one hundred billion dollars a year just one of the big business announcements made a promise evening during president clinton's visit to mr ball but the two countries remain a lot of heads nonetheless over how to solve the conflict in syria which neighbors turkey has a really good meeting. syria dominated the press conference off the russian and turkish leaders to quote president putin we russia and turkey have common goals when it comes to syria but it's the methods of reaching that solution peaceful solution is that we cannot really quite agree on that just yet other than that of course you also spoke about the necessity of keeping out of the syrian issue there was a question. with a turkish journalist who said if there is
well to remember that he also very much involved himself in the internal politics the usa during the election campaign that can't even do it himself very much the administration the movement around the world for palestine for palestinian people is unprecedented netanyahu should wake up and recognize that jeremy corbin. turkey ready to push the trade turnover through over one hundred billion dollars a year just one of the big business announcements made a promise evening during president...
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elections happen. there are consequences to those elections. yes, i think you'll see a different product come out. but i think the key is you're going to see a balanced approach with both revenue and spending cuts. you're going to see at least $4 trillion because that is the minimum amount you have to reduce the deficit in order to stabilize the debt and get it on a downward path as a percent of g.d.p. >> ifill: you said a moment ago that this is theater. these are both like opening bids that either side is going to reject. how do we get past that? how do they get past that if, in fact, the catastrophe everyone is warning about is to be avoided. >> if they got to agreement the way washington is too quickly, their own side would just kill 'em because they wouldn't think they had negotiated hard enough. you know, they've got to go through this exchange. this is no different than when, you know, you list your house, you know, you put up one price, somebody comes in with a lower price, you kind of reach a middle ground. the thing i'm sure of is tha
elections happen. there are consequences to those elections. yes, i think you'll see a different product come out. but i think the key is you're going to see a balanced approach with both revenue and spending cuts. you're going to see at least $4 trillion because that is the minimum amount you have to reduce the deficit in order to stabilize the debt and get it on a downward path as a percent of g.d.p. >> ifill: you said a moment ago that this is theater. these are both like opening bids...
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and churchill had this very moving time in the summer of 1945 where during the election campaign he realizes he hasn't got, actually the words don't work. the kind of words he has been using don't work. iran, or you know got the people who want, you know, a piece and reform, he says i have no message for them. and that is, you know, that is a sense almost powerless for a man. >> just to finish though, so the point is that he wants to be voted back by the people he lead all through the war. and that is part of where he stays on in office or stays on in opposition as leaders. >> and that's really important. >> this is also where united states really comes in to the story. because churchill has this huge-- and the thing that changes it is the from you man-- truman basically persuades to come over and makes the speech about an iron curtain descending on europe. and the reaction in the united states and in britain is-- it takes a little time before people really wake up to what this warning means. but as the mood turns churchill returns, 1946, crosses the atlantic again, back to the united kingdo
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election and iphone 5. and while the most searched person of the year was kim kardashian, this is according to yahoo! search engine, kate middleton and political polls also made the top ten list. so here is a simple question for you today. what dunk were the most interesting stories this year or the most interesting story, the election, the owe almost picks, the ongoing saga in greece. let us thouknow. worldwide at cnkrchlt nbcnbc.co. >>> starbucks is changing the way it pays taxes in the uk this after harsh criticism of tax avoidance from the british government. more when we come back. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> words of caution from the bank of japan chief at forum in tokyo. the governor said central bankers need to take a long term policy perspective if they want sustainable gr
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failed them in this last election. they want to pivot and make a rebrand of the republican party. those are the folks that are the deciding votes in the republican caucus, enough to combine with democrats who shorten that margin in the house to get something passed. >> an interesting note, erin. congresswoman bass mentioned another possible strategy from democra democrats. earlier told nancy pelosi tsd if speaker boehner refuses to schedule this for a vote, democrats will introduce a discharge petition it to automatically bring to the floor the senate-passed middle class tax cut. even though congresswoman bass and others have expressed opt mit optimism, when you put them in a corner, there's not a guarantee a deal will be made in the time period needed. >> that's right. something like that would certainly fail in the house because, of course, there is a republican majority there. they would pick off some republicans. i don't think you would get enough for something like that to pass. i just spoke to some democratic aid
failed them in this last election. they want to pivot and make a rebrand of the republican party. those are the folks that are the deciding votes in the republican caucus, enough to combine with democrats who shorten that margin in the house to get something passed. >> an interesting note, erin. congresswoman bass mentioned another possible strategy from democra democrats. earlier told nancy pelosi tsd if speaker boehner refuses to schedule this for a vote, democrats will introduce a...
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newbie's elections and that this is an internal matter to try and really build votes b. and that's when you know who government is same sees this but and perhaps i should say not just in the time yahoo government but many israelis feel that it was a one sided resolution that was put forward at the united nations and the point being made by the government is that they cannot be any kind of human left to reach on the palestinian side the needs to first be negotiations and only then can that lead to talks there needs to be direct talks between both sides. tensions are rising off the turkey scrambled fighter jets to its border the syrian warplanes bombed rebel positions to discuss the syrian conflict in the face of a widening rift between the two as president putin visits will turkey has also to deploy patriot missiles on its border with syria says the move will only provoke. what he's really good reports from istanbul. and the latest incident on the turkish syrian border several of the shells from the bombs released by the syrian air force and their attempt to exterminate.
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exit polls of last month's elections show that a slight majority of voters think that gay marriage should be legal in their states. >>> moving on now. rain, wind and snow are hammering the west coast. three separate storms in just one week have soaked oregon and washington and northern california. by the way, northern california has been hammered the worst and guess what. a fourth storm is on the way. a lot of areas already dealing with really bad flooding and they thought this was the worst of it. >> this thing just went up fast. real fast. fire department was out here. and got a lot of stuff, you know, away from the house so it didn't float down the road and stuff but this is the worst. >> meteorologist chad myers joins us now at the weather center in atlanta. round four. >> yes. >> this seems just cruel. >> and it gets worse. there will be six more rounds in the next 16 days. i can't stress how much rain that's going to -- once you get rain on the ground like we have now, it doesn't just evaporate and run off. it does run off but doesn't just go away. adding to injury. we have 20 inche
exit polls of last month's elections show that a slight majority of voters think that gay marriage should be legal in their states. >>> moving on now. rain, wind and snow are hammering the west coast. three separate storms in just one week have soaked oregon and washington and northern california. by the way, northern california has been hammered the worst and guess what. a fourth storm is on the way. a lot of areas already dealing with really bad flooding and they thought this was the...
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i think there is still a widespread belief following the german elections that debt burden is going down in the official sector, just a matter of how much. >> gina sanchez, this is live tv of course. good to have you back up and running. we have climbed the wall of worry many, many times. quite often when we climb that wall of worry we miss out on gains. is there something different this time around? are the worries justified or are we going to miss out? >> well, generally our view is that we're going to get to the end of the fiscal cliff with a resolution but that it is going to be turbulent up until that point. and so we're probably going to climb a wall of worry there. i think the issue on europe though is one that we basically -- i agree with brian, we've put europe to the back burner and probably some time at the second half of next year it is going to crop back up as an issue. but you could see, for example, the sort of classic january bounce or we think actually fiscal cliff could be pushed into january by the time they actually finally get a resolution. kicking the can may be a c
i think there is still a widespread belief following the german elections that debt burden is going down in the official sector, just a matter of how much. >> gina sanchez, this is live tv of course. good to have you back up and running. we have climbed the wall of worry many, many times. quite often when we climb that wall of worry we miss out on gains. is there something different this time around? are the worries justified or are we going to miss out? >> well, generally our view...
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. >> the presidential election became the most searched item. the election was over one of the second was iphone 5 and no. 3 cam car- she and because of the divorce with chris humphries. also kate capt., kate will tran and whitney houston. >> and card test and is in bahrain right now and there have been some protest. >> i wonder why >> got the of the next hour following five days of rain will have more on the storm taking place in the bay area today. also the sinkhole and lafayette. we're waiting for the next round of rain and erica kato will have the the timing on the forecast. keeping an eye and washington politicians are getting nowhere as they try to deal with the fiscal cliff that is just 28 days away. will be back in two minutes after this quick break. 0ñ@Ñ
. >> the presidential election became the most searched item. the election was over one of the second was iphone 5 and no. 3 cam car- she and because of the divorce with chris humphries. also kate capt., kate will tran and whitney houston. >> and card test and is in bahrain right now and there have been some protest. >> i wonder why >> got the of the next hour following five days of rain will have more on the storm taking place in the bay area today. also the sinkhole...
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let it happen before the election because as you remember, obama would have no chance of getting elected if this happened. so i said, it must happen before. they allowed it to happen after. the democrats now don't care. i think they want to go over the cliff, raise taxes, and that's going to be the end of that. i don't see the republicans having the cards. other than they have a debt ceiling card a month later. and again, that's something that should have happened before the election and if you remember, on your show i was saying, don't let this -- from a negotiating standpoint, this was a total disaster. and by the way, the little girl, i thought it was amazing the way that dolphin released her immediately. when he realized. and i smell lawsuit coming all the way. and i think it's a shame because that dolphin went after the box and obviously released that little girl beautifully. i think the dolphin has to be given credit. >> brian: if you see that dolphin, pet him. >> that dolphin looks pretty good. >> brian: the economy in florida, that's great place, one of the great places to bring
let it happen before the election because as you remember, obama would have no chance of getting elected if this happened. so i said, it must happen before. they allowed it to happen after. the democrats now don't care. i think they want to go over the cliff, raise taxes, and that's going to be the end of that. i don't see the republicans having the cards. other than they have a debt ceiling card a month later. and again, that's something that should have happened before the election and if you...
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it would coincide with south korea's presidential elections. take a look at the latest satellite photo of the launch site. south korean news agencies reporting the first stage of the rocket has been put in place. martha: we've been watching the aerial videos over the course of the last week to see changes and movement in them. greg palkot joins me live from london. greg, what do we know about this? >> reporter: north korea confirming over the weekend what we told you about on friday it is set to lawn of another rocket in the coming days. according to south korean military sources now that the first stage is set up northwest of pongyang another two stages could be assembled and fueling taken care of in three to four days for a launch window ready to set up on december 10th. north korea says it is for peaceful purposes. they want to put up a satellite. they worry it could be a the launch of missile with a long range payload. they tried this in april. we were there. they failed. the path. rocket this time is supposed to be about the same. it will
it would coincide with south korea's presidential elections. take a look at the latest satellite photo of the launch site. south korean news agencies reporting the first stage of the rocket has been put in place. martha: we've been watching the aerial videos over the course of the last week to see changes and movement in them. greg palkot joins me live from london. greg, what do we know about this? >> reporter: north korea confirming over the weekend what we told you about on friday it is...
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it was an election year sell an election was the no. 1 not most search item on the number of less. iphone was i felt five was next. against ariel was wondering when it was going to come out and searching for features. no. 3 was kim car-yen --kard ashian also on the list for cape capt. kate nelson and late singer whitney houston. >> the clean up after the storm but first more on potential rain again in the forecast. >> today is your dry day in your chance to catch up on the storm clean up if you have any left over from the weekend. we're expecting a mixture of sun and cloud for the day. temperatures will be generally in the '60's and 50's. samarra and increasing clouds and some rain is coming back into the area. the potentially for wednesday in a quiet weather pattern for the end of the week into the weekend. temperatures in downtown san francisc 7061 degrees. when i come back we'll breakdown the forecast for you and let me know what areas have the best chances for some rain. >> we're still looking as slow traffic here for our hot spot the nimitz freeway. further problems now, addin
it was an election year sell an election was the no. 1 not most search item on the number of less. iphone was i felt five was next. against ariel was wondering when it was going to come out and searching for features. no. 3 was kim car-yen --kard ashian also on the list for cape capt. kate nelson and late singer whitney houston. >> the clean up after the storm but first more on potential rain again in the forecast. >> today is your dry day in your chance to catch up on the storm...
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now they know the results of the election. but their positions sure haven't changed much. >> john, thanks very much. >>> a royal celebration tempered by a health scare. prince william's wife pregnant and now in the hospital. we'll have details of her condition. and when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. genius. yeah, genius. you guys must have your own loyalty program, right? well, we have something. show her, tom. huh? you...
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they have an election every two years and they got elected again and they've got constituents that sent them there for a reason. and then you've got the president would is just -- you know, just being hammered by the left on not caving this time around because he got so much grief the last time. this is setting up for us to go over the cliff, isn't it? what do you think? do we go over it or not? >> yeah, it is very difficult. and i feel bad for john boehner. he's in a difficult situation. i did want to remind john that he should look at the young, newer members that are so difficult to persuade to make an easy deal compromise. and remember, it wasn't too many years ago, john, that was you and me and we were driving bob michael and president bush nuts when the democrats were offering them, give us the tax increases now, we'll give you the spending cuts later and we were saying, oh, no, they'll never keep their word on the spending cuts. they'll tax the tax increases. quite frankly, the speaker has a difficult role to play here. he's seen by so many people as the principal guardian of our
they have an election every two years and they got elected again and they've got constituents that sent them there for a reason. and then you've got the president would is just -- you know, just being hammered by the left on not caving this time around because he got so much grief the last time. this is setting up for us to go over the cliff, isn't it? what do you think? do we go over it or not? >> yeah, it is very difficult. and i feel bad for john boehner. he's in a difficult situation....